The boss of the Belgian referree association has confirmed it was 100% offside.
Explanation:
The Italian player has been put out of the playing field by an action which occured on the football field and stayed outside the field, hence he isn't a "player" (since he isn't participating). It would've been different if he went out of the playing field of his own free will, for example to put somebody offside, but in this case he clearly didn't go outside the field of his own free will hence it's 100% offside.
He got pushed offside by his own goalie, but that doesn't even matter since the rules state that if a defense player gets outside of the field for whatever reason, he is still part of the game, and thus it was not offside.. Besides that van nistelrooy should've gotten a penalty before, but he wasn't a pussy like many others and tried to keep standing up and take a shot.
If you can't see that this was a deserved 3-0 victory you really have shit for brains.
no, they explained it on tv. there was an italian defender on the ground next to the left post, and defenders can't be judged "out of play", hence the goal was legit.
wether the linesman actually noticed this or not i can't tell, but if he did notice it was a good call
i'm only quoting the so-called "experts" on tv, they might be biased though. i've heard others say the same thing, but i'm sure we'll get a statement tomorrow.
"If a defending player steps behind his own goal line in order to place an opponent in an offside position, the referee shall allow play to continue and caution the defender for deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission when the ball is next out of play."
"please... he's italian. he starts to cry for mammi as soon as someone touches his bitty little foot... or his hair O.o"
Well that's your opinion, but he clearly wasn't conspiring if they scored a goal. He wasn't even watching any of the action. He was lying down facing up.
"/j #care - van nistelrooy, sneijder and van der vaart are 2much pwnage to handle for italy with cannavaro missing. gg."
I was supporting Holland. I'm not debating the quality of RvN, Sneijder and VdV. I'm merely pointing out that I'm right and you're not.
ok, they was better. Are u happy now? but they didnt deserve for that result. it should be 1:0 and nothing more. And pls, have some respect, u think that fact i am a girl, making me know less about football?
U failed mister, not me.
If you think like that it should be something like 6-2 for Holland so be quiet. Go sell tickets, that's where girls are best @ close to footballpitches.
Well if you look at the goalchances it's obvious that its something like 5-2, 6-2 to Holland =)
3 goals + one penalty if nistelrooy would had fallen + breakaway from nistelrooy. Then you could add one crossbar and the chance of Van Persie so YES. If you claim the game should had ended 1-0 for Holland shows the fact you have no clue about football.
"If a defending player steps behind his own goal line in order to place an opponent in an offside position, the referee shall allow play to continue and caution the defender for deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission when the ball is next out of play."
Schiedsrichter Peter Fröjdfeldt aus Schweden und sein Gespann erkannten den Treffer jedoch zu Recht an, weil Christian Panucci das Abseits aufhob. Alle Proteste der Italiener, in deren Rahmen sich Toni eine Gelbe Karte einhandelte, blieben erfolglos.
thought you were living in germany o0
Referee Peter Fröjdfeldt from sweden and his team affirmed the goal,because Christian Panucci annihilated the offside. All italian protests failed, while Luca Toni got a yellow card for complaining.
Agreed. Well, I didn't want to say it, because I expected the most don't understand it after a 3:0. It is deserved and congratulations, but the Netherlands had really luck.
i cant be do not agree with someone who has some knowledge about that kinde of stuff, and if someone like boss of Belgian refree asociacion says it was offside, i belive in it.
Italy had 2 great chances, when it was 0:0. Then the Netherlands scored exactly, when Italy was going to be the better team. 80 per cent of the referees had said offside, although it wasn't offside.
The 2:0 was only possible, because Italy had to play more offensive, otherwise the Netherlands had never the possibilty for such a counter attack.
Italy missed 6 good chances to the 1:2, before the Netherlands finalised them. Oranje had lost their nerves, in case of Italy had scored.
Don't misunderstand me. It was a deserved win. But the match could have another result.
Yeah and Finland would win Euro2008 if they won all their qualificationmatches and playoffmatches.. Keep on speculating can't still say Holland had luck when the goalchances were something like 7-3 for Holland :d
and again: you better do not believe what some random referee nn says - you better believe in the official fifa rules:
"If a defending player steps behind his own goal line in order to place an opponent in an offside position, the referee shall allow play to continue and caution the defender for deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission when the ball is next out of play."
22:23… @Azatej: i fucking HATE football
22:23… @Azatej: every time NL scores theres like fireworks and shit outside
22:23… @Azatej: and its really motherfucking loud
actually italy played quite ok, atleast @ 2nd half
dont know why toni wasnt subed at half time or smth, it was obvious that it's not his day
equal game but no luck for italy this time
Can't agree about you saying it was an equal game. Italy played ok @ 2nd half but Holland didn't have any bigger problems in the game and they had much more goalchances than Italy :)
ahh and more friendly refress;)
one dutchie was lonely in front of buffon while it was clearly NO offside
Explanation:
The Italian player has been put out of the playing field by an action which occured on the football field and stayed outside the field, hence he isn't a "player" (since he isn't participating). It would've been different if he went out of the playing field of his own free will, for example to put somebody offside, but in this case he clearly didn't go outside the field of his own free will hence it's 100% offside.
He got pushed offside by his own goalie, but that doesn't even matter since the rules state that if a defense player gets outside of the field for whatever reason, he is still part of the game, and thus it was not offside.. Besides that van nistelrooy should've gotten a penalty before, but he wasn't a pussy like many others and tried to keep standing up and take a shot.
If you can't see that this was a deserved 3-0 victory you really have shit for brains.
I was supporting Holland and all, but I'm afraid it was offside by a mile.
wether the linesman actually noticed this or not i can't tell, but if he did notice it was a good call
I can't find any official statement from FIFA or UEFA to support this statement. Can you show me some?
fifa.com
--> Law 11 - Offside, page 102
and dont try to tell me he left the field cause he was injured, knocked out or sth. no way.
so stfu and gtfo pls, the dutchies would have won anyways... was just a matter of time for their first goal to be scored :)
2) Panucci did not leave the field deliberately to put him offside. He did not get cautioned either. He was injured.
3) Don't be such a dickhead. :-)
"and dont try to tell me he left the field cause he was injured, knocked out or sth. no way."
Watch the clip again. I dare you.
/j #care - van nistelrooy, sneijder and van der vaart are 2much pwnage to handle for italy with cannavaro missing. gg.
Well that's your opinion, but he clearly wasn't conspiring if they scored a goal. He wasn't even watching any of the action. He was lying down facing up.
"/j #care - van nistelrooy, sneijder and van der vaart are 2much pwnage to handle for italy with cannavaro missing. gg."
I was supporting Holland. I'm not debating the quality of RvN, Sneijder and VdV. I'm merely pointing out that I'm right and you're not.
:-)
i bet you think it was luck too that germany won yesterday...
U failed mister, not me.
3 goals + one penalty if nistelrooy would had fallen + breakaway from nistelrooy. Then you could add one crossbar and the chance of Van Persie so YES. If you claim the game should had ended 1-0 for Holland shows the fact you have no clue about football.
fail.
because everyone knows what football is :P
and tbh not everyone know what football is;)
Explanation by the boss of Belgian referree association?
pls dont tell me hes wrong :(
"If a defending player steps behind his own goal line in order to place an opponent in an offside position, the referee shall allow play to continue and caution the defender for deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission when the ball is next out of play."
fifa.com
--> Law 11 - Offside, page 102
Don't trust belgians.
Referee Peter Fröjdfeldt from sweden and his team affirmed the goal,because Christian Panucci annihilated the offside. All italian protests failed, while Luca Toni got a yellow card for complaining.
The 2:0 was only possible, because Italy had to play more offensive, otherwise the Netherlands had never the possibilty for such a counter attack.
Italy missed 6 good chances to the 1:2, before the Netherlands finalised them. Oranje had lost their nerves, in case of Italy had scored.
Don't misunderstand me. It was a deserved win. But the match could have another result.
"If a defending player steps behind his own goal line in order to place an opponent in an offside position, the referee shall allow play to continue and caution the defender for deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission when the ball is next out of play."
fifa.com
--> Law 11 - Offside, page 102
we just got a lot of immigrants
zag er alleen laatst 3 in veronica magazine staan geloof ik
(volgt het hele gebeuren niet zo)
pwwwwwwned :D:D:D
P.
22:23… @Azatej: every time NL scores theres like fireworks and shit outside
22:23… @Azatej: and its really motherfucking loud
van Basten is a legend!
wp orange suckers!
dont know why toni wasnt subed at half time or smth, it was obvious that it's not his day
equal game but no luck for italy this time
and wp pirlo ! :S
van der sar is zalig
u?
now what did u say about losing the first one hannes? :P
clan?