France mad

So I heard FranceFrance have been protesting/striking/demonstrating the whole week because Nicolas Sarkozy decided to increase the pension from 60 to 62 years right?

Brief me some more about it, it's nice to see the french not surrendering for once (:D) and using their rights of democracy, unlike the maltese who didn't do anything when the government decided to increase it to 65. (Now tell me what the hell will people of 65 be able to provide to the country at that age...)

Feel free to discuss and brief me about whats happening/going to happen with the proposal of Sarkozy.
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same goes for spain

they just sit while they get shit throwed at their face.
isn't that a routine in spain? :PPPPPP
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fin 65 loelz
It's a good move tbh
shut up and do something useful for ET
in holland its 67, stop crying
lol, seriously? Tell me what a normal person of 67 will be able to do at that age, except for sitting and sleeping.
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pretty sure that half of the people aged 65 will have many health problems which would prohibit them from working (efficiently).
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if you can work as a 65yo then why not as 67yo? 65 is some magic borderline that people after crossing it suddenly die?
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Being unemployed and useless to the country, costing money with unemployment benefits ?
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Im pretty sure they can do more than that.
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Using their BRAINS :P
Plenty other things, tho
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in Germany it's 67 also
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fuck sarkozy
Who cares lol?
Garrym8 does?
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who the fuck cares.
na it's 60 -> 62 and 65 -> 67
and cause in France there aren"t any discussion before the proposal, so they can just strike/proteste after it. i mean, in belgium for exemple minister and co'll discut with syndicate, companies delegation, ... before the proposal and not after like in France where they can just go in the street and protest
FUCKING GOVERNMENT EXPLOITING CITIZENS!! NEED TO PUT DOWN PENSION TO 40 YEARS!!
I guess the financial damage is already worse than france would save with those 2 years more :p
gtfo cheater. hehahe
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At least they get pensions :p
cheater
good shit for belgium cause all the french fucks who live near the border come take our gazoil hehe
that's actually true :p
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I never lie !
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germany goes for 70 np!
Early retirement is for the weak :(
you come from a family with poor life expectancy? 67 is nothing, besides if your health wont allow it at that point you get to retire. quel est le problème?
QuoteThe current UK retirement age for men is 65 (60 for women)
- http://www.prudentminds.com/state-pension.html -
Quote(Now tell me what the hell will people of 65 be able to provide to the country at that age...)
when you reach the age of 65 don't you think you have all ready provided enough for the country? what exactly should people have to provide for their country once they have reached retirement age?
There are so many students whining that they cannot find a job/they're unemployed, increasing the retirement age is like stealing their jobs, the younger/fresh students are much efficient than the people aged 63/64/65 who have worked all their life and are not physically and maybe mentally excellent anymore. I think that working till 62 is alright, 65 is pushing it - on the limit, anything over that is lol, it's like working all your life except then after a few years you die :(
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They have more expertise on their field than any newskooler. And maybe they can't work efficient in your 3rd world country where people die at the age of 65.
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we had it at 60 before and they increased to 65, now they're making plans to move it to 68
You really need to look at the bigger picture: The number of people in working class is slowly decreasing and wont be able to support new generation meanwhile supporting the older generation. That's why the limit is being raised.

The best option in this matter would be even worse, kill older generation, no taxes for elderly anymore + the population wouldnt increase and there would be more jobs.

But what the heck, rational people would go with raising the age limitation for retirement.


PS. Europe's biggest problem is rapid aging of the population and not enough workers to keep those elderly alive. On the other hand, they could decrease the money for retirement, that would work too. Lets see how happy ppl would be with that.
62 is actually still pretty low, most of Countries have it set higher, so I don't understand why are they protesting, lazy frogs
Copying a post I did in beggin's journal couple of days ago :
Basically, our government wants to lenghten our work period from 65 to 67 years old arguing that's its the only way to finance our pension system (we are living longer, therefore there are more people who are retired, so the active people need to work during a couple of years more to ensure a decent pension revenu for the retired people).
The government says : WE LIVE LONGER, WE HAVE TO WORK MORE.
I don't know if French people have to be considered as lazy persons but they ve been fighting for a long time in order to enjoy a decent retirement time. (dont know if that's clear).
What the goverment doesn't want to hear - and thats why we are going on strikes and making riots - is that there are other ways to finance the pensions :

-Helping the young people finding a job (actually, about 24% of the young people, who are under 28 are unemployed)
-Taxing the capital revenus, i.e. benefits made in the banking/financial world are not taxed like the working revenus. It represents loads of money !
- Since the goverment is a right-wing party, they are being friendly to the rich people :
Rich people cannot be taxed on more than 50% of their revenus. That's a new law called the "bouclier fiscal" (fiscal shield).
Moreover, there has been a huge scandal during summer among the government featuring one of the minister and Sarkozy himself. That would be too complexe to expand here but basically, that person was doing fiscal fraud in order not to pay taxes, and the governement knew it but was protecting her because she gave loads of money to Sarkozy to finance his political campaign during the 2007 elections.

I don't know if I've been very clear but to summarize, the government does not want to hear the people who will willing to have a fairer system, where the rich people would contribute along with the poor people. We want our government to stop scaming with rich people... There are many other ways to finance our pensions system but the goverment doesn't want to use them, because it concerns rich people...
its not only about living longer but also decreasing number of young people :)
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Trolling in the street is our passion to make our president mad. Deal with it. :}D
made me lol :D
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Same in Norway I think:P
Yeahhh :o) i just heard the age is up to 65 now :D

Malta keep getting more worse than it already is.
in italy 65 years :D
sempre nel culo ce lo pigliamo e allegri cantiamo: ma che ce frega ma che c'emportaaaaa nananannana
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It's always been 65 for Dutchies ;)
65, for me 67 : (
Seriously I don't get it. I'm in the street, see a lot of people... Okay, just shut up, it won't change anything!
I'm at school, see a lot of teenagers striking motocycle, cars... Gosh, what kind of jerks are you guys?!
I hate being French this year...

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Here some teen's while we were listenning the teacher, making some (a lot of) noise...
Was so mad last week, had fun watching it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZce0sgyZBo
Most of them probably don't even know why they are rioting.
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Well yeah, the strike-walk stopped when sun went down, then just the young people were out and rioting. Prolly not for the cause, more like just for the kicks etc...
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In Germany its 65, np for us. Whatup lazy fucks ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPCr0fFJAm0

faggots stealing video games @ Lyon :(
Football manager2011 est même pas sorti je les comprends même pas :S
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Well it reduces pension costs and the average age of a person is raising. What if in 100 years the avg person becomes 120 years old. You have a 50 year paid pension.
RETARDS WILL BE RETARDS

hit the retards with sticks and shoot them in the head
You lazy bastard. How do those 5 years subtract from your abilities? Because they surely add to the strenght of the state.
yes, hes a chyropracter
French people are mad , they don"t want to work they just want earn lot of money without working hard , thanks to my father who's from spain i'm not like all this mongolski :).
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